tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5992307.post1721066609624566975..comments2023-10-22T23:21:02.633+08:00Comments on Kevin Price: Gina Rinehart and the reality of entitlementKevin Pricehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12677733654922689708noreply@blogger.comBlogger33125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5992307.post-83975913646705059772014-09-06T09:12:44.270+08:002014-09-06T09:12:44.270+08:00Interesting details you have remarked, thank you f...Interesting details you have remarked, thank you for putting this article together. <br /><br />www.triciajoy.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5992307.post-14034669937054338262014-03-17T07:13:55.960+08:002014-03-17T07:13:55.960+08:00Democracy is dead. It's not even a meritocracy...Democracy is dead. It's not even a meritocracy. Welcome to the Corporatocracy. What get's me is the hero worship of the mega rich. Are people really that stupid to get sucked in by the smoke and mirrors game that is going on? When did it become okay and even a virtue for people to have THIS MUCH PERSONAL WEALTH! 85 of the worlds richest people (that's INDIVIDUALS) posses as much as the poorest 3.5 billion combined! That's sick man! They should be ashamed of themselves! And yet we put them up on pedestals as if they are our SAVIOURS! Meanwhile they are hiding out in their big fat executive chairs behind company names thinking they can call the shots and dictate social opinion. "They're laughing at us, can't you see, they're laughing at us!" (Mad Max) Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02477620940080841270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5992307.post-70897632992125057162014-03-16T08:27:13.317+08:002014-03-16T08:27:13.317+08:00Bravo! Often what I would like to say streams thro...Bravo! Often what I would like to say streams through my mind in a coherent thread of ideas, well considered points and visionary perception. Then quite as quickly as exactly the right thing to say appeared it evaporates without me managing to express a word of it to others, or write a line on paper. Thank you Kevin Price for capturing the essence of all those collective thoughts in one well written summary!David Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06041580123414270092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5992307.post-34048340795959975972014-03-12T13:53:23.877+08:002014-03-12T13:53:23.877+08:00ELOQUENT? For an old time evangelical tent speaker...ELOQUENT? For an old time evangelical tent speaker on a dull fundie sabbath maybe<br /> Needed editing for shatpness and half the length - at most.Curioushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04159605053748044679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5992307.post-57297303851102230792014-03-12T11:44:17.535+08:002014-03-12T11:44:17.535+08:00Hi Tim, John above put eloquently what my thoughts...Hi Tim, John above put eloquently what my thoughts are and what the truth of the matter is. I chose not to waste time typing to an audience that is unable to see the world as it really is. You didn't even try to answer my question in the second post. As per usual, lots of finger pointing and smug self-satisfaction and nothing in the way of factual content.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11465806679520618743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5992307.post-21778945960004632472014-03-11T22:02:16.386+08:002014-03-11T22:02:16.386+08:00Poor Peter L...you've missed the whole point o...Poor Peter L...you've missed the whole point of this piece by the width of Rineharts grip on reality. Your eloquent first response sums you up nicely.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15747041405917545259noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5992307.post-42837393902490672902014-03-11T21:58:52.264+08:002014-03-11T21:58:52.264+08:00Fair enough Kevin - that's your opinion. But l...Fair enough Kevin - that's your opinion. But let's get a few facts straight.<br />The company she inherited from her father was on the verge of bankruptcy. She could have moved on and left it, she didn't, she worked her butt off and turned it around into the one of the largest resource companies in the world.<br /><br />She didn't set her company up on our infrastructure, she built her own, all those railways that transport the ore, the ports that load it onto ships, the towns that house her employees, the power and service companies that provide electricity, fuel and water she built. <br /><br />She employs thousands of aussies who house themselves, feed themselves and educate their children because she pays them the highest salaries in the world.<br /><br />She could take offence to your opinion and shut up shop, close her businesses, sack all her workers and she could move to Africa and mine there - she would make much more money in Africa cos she only has to $2 per hour so clearly greed is not her motivation.<br /><br />We should be proud of our entrepreneurs like Gina.<br /><br />just saying...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02631391808113766097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5992307.post-33135115230515307872014-03-11T17:02:41.416+08:002014-03-11T17:02:41.416+08:00love it well said that would of put her back...love it well said that would of put her back in her so called hole interestedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07051332480815461727noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5992307.post-28063017760046938822014-03-11T11:20:36.899+08:002014-03-11T11:20:36.899+08:00How about this TGIAA. When has an Australian gover...How about this TGIAA. When has an Australian government ever developed a large mineral resource without private enterprise instigating the whole thing? Without entrepreneurs we would dtill be standing on all the mineral wealth that gives you your standard of living.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11465806679520618743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5992307.post-85026651753012899032014-03-11T04:58:17.076+08:002014-03-11T04:58:17.076+08:00Good on you Pricey, for stating what most of us fe...Good on you Pricey, for stating what most of us feel in our hearts. Gina and her ilk are but minnows in a sea of sharks like the Trillionaires Rochefellers and Rothschilds that are somehow overlooked when the 10 richest get listed each year. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02482810864498095830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5992307.post-78887541860770941102014-03-10T22:59:26.247+08:002014-03-10T22:59:26.247+08:00THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. My absolute disgu...THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. My absolute disgust of this self indulgent, self righteous, narcissist individual has been doing my head in for some time and you have finally said what I have been trying to say for some time. A brilliant piece of writing. God bless you and other Aussies who feel the same. SHARE SHARE SHARE!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17741157610299072828noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5992307.post-73069837535425722142014-03-10T22:41:38.135+08:002014-03-10T22:41:38.135+08:00I'd join him.I'd join him.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18133750000239011050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5992307.post-22586453184780968272014-03-10T20:36:58.616+08:002014-03-10T20:36:58.616+08:00I do not live in Australia. But are we saying that...I do not live in Australia. But are we saying that Ms Rhinehart and her companies do not pay tax?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04308268123711017509noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5992307.post-18030586192827015982014-03-10T18:02:49.164+08:002014-03-10T18:02:49.164+08:00So happy I came across your blog, what a brilliant...So happy I came across your blog, what a brilliant piece of writing and truth, thank you!conflict of interesthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08114751348884854240noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5992307.post-33764403496585056662014-03-10T14:44:19.831+08:002014-03-10T14:44:19.831+08:00This is absolutely brilliant. Congratulations Kevi...This is absolutely brilliant. Congratulations Kevin.Michael Maherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03538981044399633961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5992307.post-79604885268044222882014-03-10T12:55:05.158+08:002014-03-10T12:55:05.158+08:00priceless said in a simple powerful waypriceless said in a simple powerful wayAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17027496398256057423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5992307.post-59753483871716080912014-03-10T10:07:25.940+08:002014-03-10T10:07:25.940+08:00First class Kevin, you should form a New Party.First class Kevin, you should form a New Party.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03048729026839732890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5992307.post-33426642522339261242014-03-10T09:22:48.858+08:002014-03-10T09:22:48.858+08:00Thank you Kevin, well said, a voice in the wildern...Thank you Kevin, well said, a voice in the wilderness is better than no voice at all. <br /><br />Scott Ludlum said a similar thing in his 'Welcome to West Australia Mr. Abbott' speech to an empty house. <br /><br />I believe we need people like Scott in Parliament to keep some balance, god alone knows we need it. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09063054510422680153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5992307.post-21170664948569791212014-03-10T06:56:40.927+08:002014-03-10T06:56:40.927+08:00Thanks Kevin, for saying it much better than I cou...Thanks Kevin, for saying it much better than I could. You speak your thoughts much more eloquently than 'peter lindsay'too. Shame he couldn't backup his claim.<br /><br />I do hope as many people come to read this as do read her outrageous comments about how Australians are all bludgers.TGIAAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01083632401827916439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5992307.post-56091989078885781182014-03-09T20:54:25.727+08:002014-03-09T20:54:25.727+08:00Thank you Mr Price please keep speaking out about ...Thank you Mr Price please keep speaking out about this otherwise people will hook onto her an Pauline H and think they are the new age gospel. Just like Abbott :(Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08893098792133793292noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5992307.post-11851002169470594432014-03-09T20:51:02.998+08:002014-03-09T20:51:02.998+08:00This is the best commentary I've read on Gina&...This is the best commentary I've read on Gina's self-indulgent discourse. Her comments really got under my skin, too, and thank you for articulating why.<br /><br />One of the problems with Labor is that it's not a left-wing party as such, but was set up for the 'worker'. It arose from the unions, and traditionally has looked after workers and their rights. This was, and is, necessary—there are still people around who would exploit their employees by paying them $2 a day.* <br /><br />These days, though, there are other issues, real left-wing issues, such as caring for the environment and asylum seekers. The workers, and therefore the unions, see these as threatening jobs, so Labor has taken the same stand on these issues as the right. <br /><br />That's why, I believe, the Greens are the only true left-wing party that have the interests of all at heart.<br /><br />*I won't say names.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05313139983430962088noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5992307.post-15890791018372921162014-03-09T20:37:38.086+08:002014-03-09T20:37:38.086+08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05313139983430962088noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5992307.post-16774914810088820472014-03-09T14:57:36.736+08:002014-03-09T14:57:36.736+08:00Yes, a council of Elders (both male and frmale!) i...Yes, a council of Elders (both male and frmale!) is waay overdue! !Bronwen Williamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10217062723085647995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5992307.post-14896172733856090222014-03-09T14:38:22.272+08:002014-03-09T14:38:22.272+08:00A great question, Eamon. I think part of the probl...A great question, Eamon. I think part of the problem is, as I said in a prior comment, that those on the Left are so overwhelmed by the success of the arguments by the Right that they fail to argue for the values they should represent. Instead they try to argue for an opposite of the same value, which is untenable.<br /><br />What is needed is a political voice with a new discourse based on responsibility and care (empathy) rather than self-interest and paternalism. Until the left side of politics recognises that the current conservative values cannot be successfully argued as a right-wrong dichotomy, they will always come off second best.<br /><br />A good example is the outrage around Thompson's behaviour as corrupt in the theft of money through privilege from the union he worked for, but there is no outrage in the theft of money by Don Randall, Tony Abbott and others through privilege from the Australian taxpayer. The left mistakenly went in to bat for one of its own and got stuck with the mud, but failed to mount an effective retaliation when those in the current government were caught out. This is not because there was no outrage, but because they tried to make the argument without redefining the values.Kevin Pricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12677733654922689708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5992307.post-84348628666640120472014-03-09T13:02:24.582+08:002014-03-09T13:02:24.582+08:00Well said Kevin POLITICIANS must be accounta... Well said Kevin POLITICIANS must be accountable and Ms Rinehart put your money where your mouth is why don't help Australia yes employ more people and build more houses the old saying money is like horses shit its no good unless spread around to make things grow so start spreading in Australia not over seas Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12515328736985831082noreply@blogger.com